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This week’s episode uncovers the inspiring story of Judi Pare, a business coach turned real estate investor and investing coach who has transformed her life, and is now on a mission to provide affordable housing solutions for seniors.
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With over seven years of experience under her belt, Judi shares her intriguing transition from a career in banking and instructional design to becoming a full-time real estate investor. Her remarkable dedication has led to the development of 450 homes across Ontario.
Balancing her rigorous investment projects, coaching initiatives, and content development work, Judi’s passionate commitment to her community shines through. Join us as we explore her past, present, and future in the dynamic domain of real estate.
Our conversation takes an insightful turn as Judi recounts her metamorphosis from a vacation property investor to a land developer. The challenges posed by the pandemic did not deter her spirit as she emphasized the critical importance of relationships in land development.
Learn from her firsthand experience dealing with land severance, building permits, and the resilience required in navigating through the pandemic-era real estate landscape. Judi’s emphasis on relationships in the real estate world offers a fresh perspective and plenty of lessons for fellow investors.
In our final discussion, Judi’s wisdom comes to life as she delves into the world of credit and its profound impact on financial success. Through a captivating story involving a mortgage broker, she demonstrates the importance of credit management and how it improved her credit score. She also brings to the forefront the financial struggles seniors face amidst inflating housing costs, underscoring the urgent need for credit knowledge.
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Invest In Real Estate | Episode Transcript
Speaker 1
00:01
Welcome to the “Inspired To Invest” podcast, where we’re sharing stories from real estate investors and how investing has changed their lives.
This episode of “Inspired To Invest” has been brought to you by Conduit Asset Management, Five Oaks Land Development and Stone Hearth Properties. Hi everybody, welcome to the Inspire To Invest podcast. I have a wonderful guest today named Judi Pare, who’s also given me lots of coaching and guidance with my own investing career in the past as a five-ish years.
To give you a little bit of background on Judi, she has been in real estate for 2014, and she has been coaching other investors for the past seven years. She’s very respected and trusted in our community and she’s got a very large network of peers and colleagues, not only in real estate sales but also in land development. Judi’s always on the pulse for the best investment and education opportunities to provide for her partners, students and investors. When she’s not working, she can be found in her vacation properties, either up at the cottage in Northern Ontario or in Italy.
Welcome, Judi, I’m so happy to have you here today.
Speaker 2
01:08
Thank you, I’m happy to be here. Thank you for inviting me.
Speaker 1
01:12
Obviously, the focus of this real estate podcast is focused around investing, but what I want to know is what you were doing before real estate.
Speaker 2
01:21
That’s a great question. I actually own a learning and development company as well. I’m an instructional designer and I was doing a great deal of instructional design before I started in real estate For various companies. I worked at the big banks, I worked at Blackberry. I’ve done. I could teach you anything from poking your eye out with a laser to not landing yourself in jail for money laundering. That’s what I was doing before. This was education and more education.
Speaker 1
01:55
It makes sense. Now you’re educating people in this space. What was really the catalyst then to finding real estate and evolving your career into that?
Speaker 2
02:03
Yeah, it’s funny, I was actually getting laid off or my contract was ending with one of the big banks and I talked to my boss and I said I don’t know what I’m going to do next. I’ve been doing this for a long time. I had worked at the banks for a long time in instructional design, just in various divisions, like in capital markets and wealth management. My boss said to me well, why don’t you do something in real estate? You’ve got real estate properties, you’ve got income properties. Why don’t you go educate in real estate? We had gone to see Scott McGillivray on the wealth tour a couple of weeks before and she said maybe they’re hiring. Then I looked at that and I thought, wow, what would they want me for? People told me I had done some income properties and I was doing it really well. I went and I interviewed and got a position there as a coach because, naturally, with my teaching background and I was a real estate investor already I was already doing just a few things.
03:06
But I think the big thing that got me into it was my husband had a property and it was paid off. I was newly married to him and I had always wanted properties. I couldn’t really get into it because I had financial difficulties in the past. I always wanted home ownership. I felt like it was really important and my husband had a property. I said I’m going to go do income properties. I bought a few and then my boss said you’ve got to get into this because you love it. You’re really good at it. Maybe you need to do more about it. I showed out to Tracy, who said Judy, go do this. I think that was what pushed me over the edge, is somebody else told me I could.
Speaker 1
03:48
Yeah, no, I think everyone just needs that little push. It sounds as if you were straddling both sides For a lot of real estate investors. They hang onto their job and their employment, income and stuff like that. For you, would you define yourself now as more solely focused on real estate investing, or are you still doing a bit of both? What does a regular day look like for you?
Speaker 2
04:11
Yeah, I’m going to say that I’m 100% full-time real estate investor. Then if we take my 110% day, 10% of my time is actually still in education. I still offer services as a coach. I still work for my former employer as a, as a content specialist, so I help them develop content and I do that sort of thing. And I still do some part-time coaching, mostly because I love the community, I want to give back and it’s that I can’t do it full-time. I don’t have time, so I’ve decided that the most I can give to that job or that role is about six to eight hours a week.
04:58
And then I just manage my yeah, I think it’s still a fair amount. I’d like to maybe one day get down to about four hours a week. I don’t think I’ll ever leave it, to be honest, because I love it. I love it so much it’s a really big part of me because it’s an educational piece of it and I like giving back. So the company that I work a little bit for part-time really helped me launch my real estate career. So it’s part of giving back to that community.
Speaker 1
05:28
Yeah, and I think it helps you just maintain some of those relationships and connections and, like your bio said, just keeping a pulse on what everybody’s doing. Now you talked about, obviously, your real estate investing full-time. So what kind of projects do you have on the go right now?
Speaker 2
05:42
Oh, I’ve got so many. I have seven right now that are development projects. I’ve got them in various cities. We’re building about 450 homes. We’ve got them in Windsor, brantford, hamilton and the Muskocus. So we’re doing a lot of affordable and senior housing and I have one project that we’re building to, two projects that we’re building to sell, but the rest of the projects the other five are buying homes and we’ll keep about 330 of the units that we’re building and keep them in the portfolio which we’re putting in a REIT. So we’re just launching a plentitude REIT in the next few weeks and our projects are gonna move into that so people can invest in the entire portfolio, not just individual projects.
Speaker 1
06:31
Now can you bridge the gap? Because you talked about short-term rentals and having kind of the cottage properties and the next is like bam, like doing seven apartment buildings and 500 units and that’s a big jump. So for anyone who doesn’t know you, can you talk about bridging that gap and how you went from having some cottages to building apartments?
Speaker 2
06:52
Yeah. So I started with a project in Pickering. I had bought some land and severed it. We had bought two properties side by side and realized that we could turn them into three properties. So there was 150-foot frontage between the two of them and so we decided, okay, you know what, we can build three houses on these properties. And we went through the process and I really enjoyed it. I enjoyed the process. It was the process of land severance and getting to building permit.
07:21
For me was it just seemed very process-driven and I like process. I do well in process. So it was just a matter of checking off boxes, doing these things and checking off tasks. So as I was doing it, I thought this is really cool, I really enjoy this, and so then I got involved in another one and then another, and so it just kind of transitioned. That way I found a lane that I enjoy. I still love vacation properties. I mean I’m taking 25 investors to Italy this week and we’re yeah, and we’re gonna go look, we’re gonna look at some vacation properties there, and I still have my vacation properties. But I really like sometimes you invest and you only invest in one area. That’s a part of my portfolio that I really enjoy is the vacation piece of it and I really enjoy the development piece of it. So and I’ve partnered with a lot of people, so it’s taken, I’m using their skill set more so than mine for a lot of it.
Speaker 1
08:27
Yeah, and I think there’s got to be something fulfilling when you think about land development, taking it from something that was to something that becomes this beautiful thing. And you know, I got to see those properties when there were, you know, wood burning furnaces and you know, I think I was less than a week out from my due date with my daughter, but I came and got to tour the properties and then I got to see these majestic, beautiful custom homes when they were completed a couple of years later. So I think from a you know, just from the aspect of creating, there’s something really beautiful.
Speaker 2
08:55
Just seeing a project through, from like you know what it was really like, what it became was so impressive and I think that’s part of my skill set, too, is design, is creating and design and staying within my ability, and even as an instructional designer, before it’s got the word design in it I like taking content and or land or something and developing it into something else and making it the highest and best use for what it is, and I think it just comes naturally to me like being able to do that. And, yeah, you’re right, like we took some ugly buildings and we need some beautiful homes, absolutely beautiful homes that I’m really proud of. So I think it felt. That felt really good.
Speaker 1
09:42
And now to go and during the pandemic too. So, just as a context to that, I had my daughter in December of 2019. I think I saw you like the end of November and then, obviously, three months later, we went into lockdown. So you’re dealing with, like lockdown, you’re dealing with supply chain issues, just the way that the pandemic really changed the industry in a lot of ways. So maybe you can talk about how you kind of got through that and some of the challenges that you faced.
Speaker 2
10:06
Yeah, that was actually one of the biggest challenges I’ve ever had was building these three homes during a pandemic, because you really had to rely on your team. For one and your team I needed to be on site full time. It wasn’t something I could do remotely. It’s a very hands-on position when you’re doing development and building homes. And I was up North, I was at the cottages, I was at the vacation properties and my son was our site supervisor and he called me and he said you know, look, mom, I need you here, I can’t do this by myself. And plus, he was isolated. So there was that whole thing of he didn’t have his circle either, right. And so he said I need you here, I need you to come here, I don’t wanna be alone on this project and do this. So I moved and we rented a house from a neighbor that was just the dumpiest little house across the street from our project and I threw a mattress on the floor and literally slept. And we moved to Deskin.
11:05
The only furniture we had was patio furniture. We had outdoor patio furniture that we brought into the office. We used the house like an office. We each threw a mattress on the floor. We use the patio furniture for our work station or eating for everything, and we stayed there during the project and our trades would come in and out and you know they. We could keep our social distance, we could do that sort of thing and keep building and keep the project moving.
11:35
But I think that one of the big things was our relationship with our suppliers. Our suppliers were very important in this and being able to get materials when you couldn’t go shopping was unbelievable. It was unbelievably hard. I have a great relationship with the ProDesk at Home Depot and I was able to, you know, pick up the phone and call the desk and say, look, I need tile or I need this, and they would. They would actually schedule a time with me and bring the tile outside. They would bring it up to me and say, what do you need? What do you? And one time we were stuck in mud with our Bobcat and I said I need to pull these chains out. I was going to freeze overnight. I like I need something, and they just fixed something up for me. I drove up, they put it in my car.
Speaker 1
12:25
They invoice me In the clout of darkness, like when you think back to those times, the way people were literally trying to conduct business in a way that was safe and abide by the rules, but sometimes you had to bend them just to get things done Exactly so they were amazing.
Speaker 2
12:37
So it was all about relationship. For me, yeah, getting through the pandemic was about the relationships with the trades and the relationships with the suppliers and finding ways to still follow the rules but get stuff done and get it, and it was. It was a very challenging time. I can tell you. There were times where, you know, I thought the project was going to sink us. Like I really did think that and it was the most challenging. But we got through it and we built beautiful homes. It took us. It took us probably twice as long as it should have taken us.
Speaker 1
13:11
Yeah, but at least you got through it and you didn’t think the project. So I think that’s amazing and I guess, leading into that, when you look at your successes, so, thinking back to all the different things that you’ve done, what would you define, as you know, the height of your success and why was that so important to you?
Speaker 2
13:29
You know, I think the height of my success was about six months ago. It was about six months ago, maybe eight months I actually decided that I had gaps in my education. I had gaps in what I knew and what I needed to do as an employer. My team was getting bigger and bigger and bigger, yeah, and I really. What I wasn’t so great at was running my business. I went and got business coaching. So I went and signed up for some business coaching. What I did? I changed four things in my business last year and it made a huge difference for me. One of the things I did is I got more coaching. For one, I spent a lot of money on coaching and decided that I needed to improve myself. I needed to improve myself as a business owner and I hired more people. It was really important to me to hire more people. So the whole who, not how, idea of growing your business. I hired some really great people on my team. I said no way. More often. I learned what my unique ability is.
14:38
And I said no to everything else that I’m not good at, or everything that I’m good at sort of, or excellent at, if you don’t like doing, but I don’t like doing, I said no to. So that’s one of the key things I did. And I took way more vacations last year and I know people say, oh, you’re just starting out, how do you take time off? I made it a personal contract to myself that I would take time off, that I would take time off, I would go away. So after every one of my training workshops, I scheduled a trip. So I went to Italy several times. This is why I’m buying properties over there. I went over and I found that the more I freed myself from my business, the more business I could do.
Speaker 1
15:28
Yeah, I can understand that, and you also have to present. You want to show up the best way that you can be, and if you’re just burnt out and stressed, you’re not really giving that to yourself the right way, you’re not giving it to your team. So I do think that you’ve got to manage that balance appropriately. No matter what stage of the game you’re in, you can work hard for a period of time, but it’s not sustainable, so you just have to be mindful of what you really need. You’re not here just to like work and die right. So I think exactly, exactly so.
Speaker 2
15:55
I did a lot more of that. I took a lot more holidays, I spent a lot more time with family, and my business grew ten times when I made those changes. Yeah, though, for me that was, I think, the big the, the pivotal success moment was identifying, identifying really what my strengths yeah, and where are?
Speaker 1
16:16
I just have to ask where your properties in Italy?
Speaker 2
16:19
Okay, so we’re, they’re, they’re going to be in a little area called Marcella, in Umana. It’s on the Adriatic coast, just south of Angola, nice, yeah, so I’m, I’m Looking to put a couple in the portfolio next week. What I’m there.
Speaker 1
16:33
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16:40
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Speaker 1
19:09
Hi everyone, thanks again for joining us on the inspired to invest podcast. We have Judy Paray here. She’s talking about everything from short-term rentals and building custom homes to land development. So obviously I’m sure it goes without saying that it’s not all sunshine and rainbows. You’ve survived a pandemic, you know you’ve had lots of learning and education, but when you think back to all the different things you’ve done, what do you think are a couple of the biggest lessons? And if you could go back, is there anything that you wish you would have done differently to maybe manage those situations a bit better or differently?
Speaker 2
19:42
Yeah, so I think my biggest lesson is is really understanding the skill sets of my partners. You know, I’ve partnered with with really great people and I’ve partnered with not so great people in my career, and I think it’s understanding their skill set and understanding what they bring to the table and making sure that you document that and that you, you, you Write down the rules of engagement. What are you doing? What am I doing? Because when you partner with people, you always think you’re doing the most work, and when they partner with you, they think they’re doing the most work and neither one of you are right you know so or maybe both of you are right and you’re both doing the work.
20:26
So I think, for me, the biggest lessons Was really just understanding the skill set of my partners and identifying why I would choose that partner, like what gap are they filling? So they should be doing something I can’t do or that I’m not uniquely great at. You know so, and I think that’s what it comes down to. Is I stay in my now, I only do what I’m good at and I expect the same from my partners. Yeah, so I think that’s the biggest lesson for me.
Speaker 1
20:58
Yeah, I think that’s really smart, I mean even for myself, when I think back to starting out with my business. You know, I was offered the opportunity, I was issued shares and we didn’t even have a partnership agreement, nor did we think. It just wasn’t even on our radar because you don’t know what you don’t know. And then my partner decided to exit after four years for personal reasons. So all of a sudden we’re like you know you don’t think about these things, but I think when you are going into business someone, you want to outline the roles and responsibilities and also consider, well, if this doesn’t work out or there comes a time like, how that will be handled. And just trying to outline things because you want to do that when you’re on great terms, not maybe when there’s been a communication breakdown or something bad has happened. So I think that’s really important. Now, obviously, you’ve had so much coaching. You’ve been a coach. What do you think is the best advice that you’ve ever been given and and how did that make a change for you or impact you?
Speaker 2
21:47
Yeah, I think the best advice is to stay in your lane, to stay within your unique ability. Do the things that bring you the most joy, because you’re gonna be the most successful when it’s bringing you joy. Yeah, I broke down you know my daily activities recently and Decide. I took a week and I decided everything I’m good, everything I do, in a week, and I wrote them down. I was an activity checklist of everything I did in a week and I broke them into four categories Things that I’m uniquely great at and it’s within my unique ability and it makes me so happy and I love doing this Right. So this is what I really did. Then there was this other bucket that was things I’m excellent, and then another one that things I’m competent at and things I’m incompetent at and I took all of those tasks and said why am I doing things?
22:40
I’m incompetent, right, and I hired somebody to do that 25% of my day, yeah, or my week, and so we I broke it down again recently and so now I don’t do anything. I’m incompetent. I have people that do that. That’s the whole. Who, not how mentality. Now, about 75% of what I do, 50% is within my unique ability, 25% I’m excellent at, and there isn’t anybody yet on my team that can do it. Yeah, but it doesn’t bring me a great deal of joy.
23:12
I’m just good at it yeah knowing I’m good at it and I get it done. Okay, that makes me a little bit happy, but it doesn’t make me extremely happy, yeah, and then all of the things that I’m competent at. There was about 25% of that. I’m getting rid of those things. So I think that the best advice I got was don’t do what you don’t love doing. Yeah, like, get rid of those things, get somebody else to do it, because you’ll be way more productive when you do what you love to do.
Speaker 1
23:38
Yeah and I think that’s something that you know. It’s always this ebb and flow whether you’re an investor or a business owner or an entrepreneur that you know you struggle along and you’re trying to do these things, and sometimes it’s to try to save money in some instances. You know, for me I did my own bookkeeping for the first 10 years and that could be a couple hours or literally two days of my whole week and I wasn’t a trained bookkeeper. So I’m literally struggling through that and that was literally the first thing that my my coach told me to do is you have to hire a bookkeeper. I had to just look at the cost. But then when we did that, our sales doubled that year and I went from spending two days, sometimes a week, to just hitting a button and off payroll went right. So we had to develop a system in place in order to communicate that.
24:17
But you know, look at the impact that that had with our business and our growth, just by taking that one thing off our plate. You know it’s amazing what kind of a change that can be. Now I guess, looking at everything you’re doing now, like what would you say is next for you? And one unique question I had recently. Was Then it just so interesting and like what’s your freedom number? And for some investors that’s like number of doors. It could be the cash flow per month, it could be a certain revenue goal or what you want to leave your family Like you know, what does all that mean to you and what does that number look like? So what is?
Speaker 2
24:50
okay, so we’ll talk about the freedom number. I think you asked another question. Yeah, just in terms of what’s next. What’s next? Okay, so I’ve met my freedom number, I’m already there, so it’s so. Now it’s it’s about. You know, and I’ve always asked this question to people that I coach is how much do you really need, like, really, how much do you mean? Yeah, what are you working so hard for? Yeah, right, the big question is why? Why are you working so hard and like, what are you trying to achieve and for?
Speaker 3
25:20
me.
Speaker 2
25:20
I’ve achieved what I want to achieve and I’m where I want to be. Financially, I’m where I need to be. However, there’s more that I want to do so for me. I’m I’m really passionate about affordable housing and senior housing, yeah, so what’s next for me is focusing on projects that put more properties in inventory, that are affordable rental units and that are safe, affordable housing and More housing for senior citizens. That’s my focus. My focus is is now just to provide safe, affordable housing For low-income families and new immigrants, as well as seniors in our community, and I think you know focusing on that and focusing on accessible housing, so that we can get people into homes that are, that are safe and accessible and that they have access to all the common areas. That’s that’s my focus now and that’s where that’s gonna go is to give back and to do more in my community, yeah, and to be more inclusive. You know, and I think I think that’s where that’s really where my focus is going is to allow accessibility and inclusivity to to as many people as I.
Speaker 1
26:37
Yeah and I think that’s the thing like.
26:39
If you’re, I can understand why Retirement is attractive to people working in a job or maybe they’re not feeling fulfilled, but in an instance like this, where you are an investor in your building your business, this is a different, unique sense of purpose, right?
26:52
So everyone has those different things kind of playing in the background at all times. And you know, I was at an event just a couple weeks ago and they were talking about a woman that lost her husband in her senior years and now she’s in a position where she’s kind of at the poverty line and she’s actually working on building a community. Because they were gifted, I think, five to six acres in Niagara and they’re looking for people to support them to basically build this seniors community and provide an opportunity for seniors living alone that can build that community to be together, because not only is it challenging from a financial standpoint, it’s challenging emotionally and having that support in the community and stuff like that. And I think that’s you know, when you look at inflation and housing costs and our vulnerable situation with seniors where they are on fixed incomes, I think this is something that’s so important and and something that more people need to be thinking about Right.
Speaker 2
27:40
Yeah, no, I love that she was gifted this acreage.
Speaker 1
27:44
Yeah, yes, now she’s trying to figure out what, how to how to move forward right. So it’s kind of an interesting thing. I can always share some more information after the fact. Now I guess, looking back, is there anything that you think you would tell your former self now, knowing the types of things that you know?
Speaker 2
27:58
now I’d say keep your credit clean. Smart, yeah, keep your credit clean, really understand your buying power and understand mortgages. Like I think if I understood money more, I probably would have been more successful earlier, right? So I think that’s the number one thing.
28:24
I got some really great advice from a mortgage broker once, and when I first started buying properties, one of the things I would do on a regular basis was go and speak to a local mortgage broker and became friends with her and we would have coffee and we would talk about my goals and what I was looking to do, and she taught me how important credit was and how important it was gonna be for me in the future, and I didn’t have good credit at the time. I had some life events that impacted my credit quite a bit and she helped me manage that and understand it. And I think it’s really important that people manage their credit usage as well and their utilization, because it impacts their score and a lot of people don’t know that if you keep your utilization at more than 30% and impacts a third of your score, so keeping your utilization down on your credit actually increases your credit score. So I think that’s the best thing If I could tell my younger self is understand credit, learn how credit works and keep it clean.
Speaker 1
29:33
Yeah, no, I think that’s smart. I mean, my dad hasn’t filed his taxes and I think 25 plus years. So I think for me as a business owner, I was always terrified, like if I could have my taxes done January 2nd, I would do that. I’d be like I’m done for the year and I’ve always been very diligent about that just because I saw my dad’s circumstances and obviously there’s life events like you’re talking about, that led to that and he kind of jokes about it, cause like how are you not in jail? Like government says, oh, these millions of dollars. He’s like, well, I just make the minimum payments, but I mean he can’t have a bank account and he can’t have anything in his name, like everything’s in the rest of the family’s name and stuff like that. But I think you’ll learn a lot from the people around you and hopefully you can try to just learn from other people’s mistakes instead of making your own, if you possibly can.
Speaker 2
30:17
Sure, and we’re the average of the five people we hang out with the most right. So if you really want to learn more, don’t be the smartest person in the room.
Speaker 1
30:27
Yeah, no, absolutely. You can learn so much more from other people and now, obviously, the whole purpose of this podcast is inspired to invest. So, speaking about inspiration and quotes, is there any particular quote that you find especially motivating and inspirational to you?
Speaker 2
30:42
Yeah, it’s actually quite funny. I always hear people say to me. People say to me oh, you’re so lucky, you’re so lucky, you’re so lucky that you have this, or you’re so lucky you’ve done this. But my favorite quote is by Thomas Jefferson and it says the harder I work, the luckier I seem. You know, I just I think that’s so important is it does come with hard work and it’s not easy and it’s not a quick fix industry. I think that I think it’s. If you just work hard and you remain true to yourself, everything will seem easy and will seem lucky in the future. You just have to work hard at it and maintain relationships and keep your knowledge going. So that’s my favorite quote is the harder I work, the luckier I seem.
Speaker 1
31:34
Yeah, no, that’s awesome. It reminds me of another one that says some people work a few years of their life like most people won’t, so you can live the rest of your life like other people can’t so. I think, you gotta put in that work right. So I think it’s all connected. But for anyone that does have questions and wants to reach you or hear about opportunities that you have, since you mentioned you’re starting a REIT how can people find you?
Speaker 2
31:56
They can find us at plentitudeinccom. We’ve got a website, plentitudeinc, so it’s.
Speaker 1
32:03
P-L-E. I’ll put it down below. You’ll put it up there, you’ll put it up there.
Speaker 2
32:07
So okay, so plentitudeinccom, or invest at plentitudeinc, and that’s how they can find us. You know I’m, you’ll put it on there, but I’m on Instagram, mamajuice, and that’s what people call me as MamaJuice. So my daughter decided that was my Instagram handle.
Speaker 1
32:24
So so I love it.
Speaker 4
32:27
I love it.
Speaker 1
32:28
Well, thank you so much for your time today and, of course, for anyone that’s watching. If You’ve Life With you Scene, please make sure you subscribe to this channel and you can also follow along at Inspire To Invest podcast across social.
But thanks again for watching and, of course, Judi, thanks for being with us today. You’re welcome. That was great. Thanks for having me.
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