There is more to real estate investing than making money, isn’t there?
Welcome back to the “Inspired to Invest” real estate podcast. This week, Jo Barrington and Ray Vozza from BV&Co are joining us to share their unique approach to real estate and why they believe that focusing on people, properties and profitable investments are all equally important when you’re building your real estate business.
Like many other real estate investors, Ray and Jo decided it was time to leave the “rat race” after starting their family. They wanted more control over their time so they could better fulfill their new roles as parents to their two beautiful children.
Find out how they educated themselves so they could take this leap into their new lives and careers – and some of the surprises that they encountered along the way.
Investing in real estate is a huge undertaking, especially when you’re raising capital from other people for your acquisitions. Learn more about how Ray and Jo have gone about tackling this and why they’ve made it their priority to take care of their investors (aka, their “people”) first.
Ray and Jo share one golden nugget after another during our discussion, and they don’t shy away from some of the struggles that they have experienced along the way either.
This conversation is a gold mine for anyone out there who is thinking about taking charge of their future by becoming a full-time real estate investor. Ray and Jo reveal the roadmap they have followed to be where they are today, and why they have shifted their path a bit as this new chapter has unfolded for them.
Ray and Jo are a dynamic duo that you simply won’t want to miss!
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Real Estate Transcript
Speaker 100:01
Welcome to the “Inspire to Invest” podcast, where we’re sharing stories from real estate investors and how investing has changed their lives. This episode of Inspire to Invest has been brought to you by the Canadian Real Estate Women Association, also known as CREWA. Hey everybody, welcome to the Inspire to Invest podcast. I have Ray Vozza and Joanne Jo Barrington, I should say, here with us today. We always want to extend things on my end, but they’re both full-time real estate investors. They run an amazing company called BV&Co. They kicked off this chapter of their careers back in 2019 and have roamed their portfolio to more than 100 doors during that time. They specialize in conversions, multifamily development and short-term rentals, and they really love to help others benefit through real estate by joint venturing with them, private lending and also offering equity investments. So thank you so much for being here today. I know you’re both very busy. Thanks for having us.
Speaker 200:58
Serena.
Speaker 300:58
Thanks for having us, Serena. It is a pleasure. We’re super excited and honored to be your guests.
Speaker 101:03
Yeah, of course. So I know that you guys haven’t been investing for overly long it’s been about four years. So what I really want to know is what you guys were doing before real estate investing came into the picture.
Speaker 201:13
Go ahead hon, okay, well, I was. Yeah, we’ve got sort of interesting backgrounds, I guess, compared to where we are now, but my degree was actually in zoology. I spent my whole career in the fundraising world in the not-for-profit space and did corporate fundraising there, so I loved it. It was a fabulous career.
Speaker 101:33
I didn’t know this was a zoology program.
Speaker 201:34
Yeah, oh that’s weird.
Speaker 301:37
Joe always has interesting twists and turns when she’s telling stories. For me, my background was marketing, so sponsorships, events, doing experiential. That was almost 15 years and it was great, but at the same time we kind of realized that we wanted a little bit more. So making a shift was something that was in the cards for us.
Speaker 101:55
So what did that shift look like? So you guys were both working, Did one of you exit your careers first? Or like how did that jump actually take place?
Speaker 302:03
So I think for us it was really all around the time when we had our first child. So we were living in Toronto, right, we had our first child, our daughter, and all of a sudden our costs of living just like doubled, like childcare, diapers everything.
Speaker 202:18
Childcare was more than a mortgage.
Speaker 302:21
We were paying more for childcare than we were paying for a mortgage every single month, and it became clear at that point in time that we needed to be able to develop some additional streams of revenue right, some other sources of income. But it wasn’t a really big goal Like we’re going to make a huge big shift, right. It was like we’re going to do one or two kind of you know, either buy a property or do an investment and be able to kind of augment what was going on in the household. But I’d say mid-2019, right, we really kind of we saw the potential and we saw the opportunity and we said you know what, we’re going to do this full time. We can really go ahead and kind of change our trajectory.
Speaker 102:52
Yeah, so then what happened next? Did you guys go about going into multifamily or like, how did that growth path look and like to take you to where you are now today, with 100 doors?
Speaker 203:02
Yeah, you. Well, you tell the story. I always. I tell a longer story. You’re good at keeping it concise.
Speaker 303:09
Yeah. So I mean, I was doing a lot of networking in 2019, kind of the back half and I just wasn’t getting the traction that I really needed. So we decided to, you know, invest in ourselves a little more education, and that’s where we really started to get traction. So the start of 2020, you know, if everyone remembers, that was the start of the COVID period and we caught fire. So, as the world was shutting down, we were acquiring. So we did our first joint venture in just to like kick off the new year in January. The next month of February, we did our first multifamily 16 units and that was like just jumping right into kind of the deep end, right. So we had to flex. And then, all of a sudden, we went like right into like multifamily and then, over the period of the next eight months or 10 months, I think, we added five more properties to the portfolio during that period of time.
Speaker 103:58
Yeah Well, I think that’s a smart move because I think, just from talking to all the investors, like so many have just said, they wish they went bigger sooner. Because the work that goes into acquiring like a smaller property is the same as if it was, you know, 10, 10 doors or 20 doors or whatever that may be. And it doesn’t mean that, you know, there aren’t some complexities that come with that when it comes to structuring your legal contracts and capital raising and stuff like that. But as a whole, there are also some other things that just make sense from an economies of scale perspective 100% agree right and for us, right because we decided to really go at this on a full time basis.
Speaker 304:31
So you know, now I’ve left my career, I’ve decided to go at this right. For us, being able to make those acquisitions and be able to get our portfolio up to a level was a large goal and we really went after it.
Speaker 204:42
Yeah, I don’t think we could have grown as quickly as we did if Ray hadn’t been in it full time, so I stayed in the career. I joined him full time in 2021. So it’s been two years now, but it was yeah. We couldn’t have done that by doing it at our time, right and having two small kids yeah.
Speaker 105:03
Yeah, I mean, I think even looking back now I’m like, oh, this would have been so much easier if I did this in my 20s and my 30s. I know I still had a busy business, but it’s very different when kids come into the picture and you’ve got to balance things a lot differently, right? So I give you guys credit. It had to be done Like you do what you got to do, right.
Speaker 305:21
But thank you. Well you know the balance right. Yeah, working for yourself as well as, you know, having kids right to be able to raise. So it’s a challenge, but it’s a great challenge and it’s a rewarding life, that’s for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 105:34
No. Now, when you look at your portfolio and the way that it’s grown and stuff like that, is there any one particular project or acquisition or whatever it is that you would say you’re most proud of or you feel like is your biggest success so far?
Speaker 205:47
It’s funny, I don’t think I can pick a project that I can say is the thing that we’re most proud of.
05:54
I’m, honestly, most proud of the growth that we’ve done as a couple, as a business, as a family you know, because it has taken and I don’t think I anticipated that going into this journey, I think I wasn’t at all aware of sort of the mental capacity and the mental growth that comes with being an entrepreneur and the ups and the downs and the pressure is on a whole new level because the buck stops with you, right, and you know it’s. I’m really.
Speaker 106:29
it hasn’t not been easy, but we’ve done great and I think that’s the thing I’m most proud of and I think it’s not easy, like I mean I was talking to Diana and John earlier, for example and when you are working as a real estate entrepreneur and investor, that’s hard on its own, let alone bringing that into your marriage. And I think, just compartmentalizing certain things and you know you don’t necessarily be sitting there talking at the breakfast table about everything so you got to try to have some boundaries, like you know.
Speaker 306:59
I think just having those close proximity to everything can can just be like a whole another layer of having your marriage mixed in right 100% 100% right, Like we can talk about, like different projects and the things that we’ve fallen in love, and I think on every particular property and project there’s, like you know, that kind of that honeymoon romance period where you’re, like you know, maybe it was the tile that showed so the way the layout came together or the way that we find it.
07:24
Oh yeah, certain projects that I love. There’s ones that were just like oh, you know what, we love the fact that we hit that home, but overall we really, you know, our mindset still stays the same, which is it’s learning and growing right. So everyone has taught us something, everyone has benefited us in some ways and, you know, for us it’s hard to be able to say like this is the one right, when there’s like everyone you pick a new skill set, something that’s happened. You’ve gotten a little bit smarter, faster or better.
Speaker 207:49
Yeah, I think that’s the other thing, too, that sticks out to me In terms of something that we’re proud of is being able to to offer opportunities for others to get involved in real estate who are not currently involved. I mean, we’ve had a couple of people reach out to us and say, you know, they were able to go on this family trip that they’ve always wanted to go on because they invested with us, and that just that feels really, really nice.
Speaker 108:16
Yeah, yeah no, I think that’s huge and obviously like to your point. There are challenges with any project or acquisition. Are there any particular challenges or obstacles that you face that you would want to highlight and anything now looking back, coming through it on the other end, that maybe you would have done differently with the knowledge and experience that you have now?
Speaker 308:35
I think yeah, I mean, you know we were talking about this last night. Actually, we’re sort of like prepping for today, going through the questions and really giving some great thought to that particular question. And I think, as you know, investors that were aggressively scaling our portfolio, right, one of the things that we’ve really learned from is taking on a project in a market that is changing and shifting, and it really becomes about those additional extra strategies that you thought about at the beginning, but now it’s time to employ them. So you know, you bought a property, you’re working on it, the interest rates have gone up and now the mortgage is two times what you thought you’d be paying at the start.
09:09
What do you do? Right, how do you be able to continue to be successful? How do you pivot, how do you make those changes? And I think for us, that was probably the biggest really lesson or the biggest learning right that came out last year. Right, it’s eight interest rates, as we all know that everything went up for all of us, right? So costs went up and it’s like how do you see it be profitable, be successful and continue to move things forward?
Speaker 209:32
Yeah, and I would say also, you know, yes, we happen to build and grow and scale a business during a global pandemic, which you know is pretty crazy. But I think that regular communication with your partners, with your investors, with everybody and being really transparent and you know, calling us bait, us bait, everyone as it was in the same position in terms of the rates and being open and honest about how we were going to navigate our way through this and we were going to try this strategy, see if that worked and then try this strategy, and I think that communication and that transparency was something that I think has really helped us over the last few years for sure.
Speaker 110:16
Yeah, no, and I can understand because, as you guys know, I’ve been on the more passive side for the last few years and I think, just with some of the people that I’ve invested with now it’s like that makes a huge difference. Like, I think, if there is anything going on and there’s any possible chance of like a delay or whatever it may be, I think, as the active partners, like you, have to be very transparent and very proactive with your communication, just so that you can put your investors’ minds at ease, let them know how you’re handling something, because, at the end of the day, like your reputation is like couldn’t be more important in this kind of an industry. Now, when you look back, would you say that there’s anything that’s really surprised you over the course of being a real estate investor, in a way that, like when you started out, you never would have thought you’d be encountering something or experiencing something?
Speaker 211:01
I mean, yeah, I’ve done as a prizes over the last few years, but honestly, I think for me it’s been the personal growth as an entrepreneur and I think one of the things that has helped us tremendously in that has been surrounding ourselves with like-minded people, so in different groups and masterminds and communities. You know we’re part of similar ones and you know I didn’t anticipate that. I didn’t anticipate that sort of mental and personal journey that we’d be going on as well as building a business.
Speaker 111:33
I think there’s anything that stands out to you is probably like the biggest lesson that you’ve learned, like for anyone that’s watching that maybe hasn’t gone down this path yet, any like pearl of wisdom that you’d pass along to them that you wish someone could have helped you with earlier on.
Speaker 311:47
Well, I think we did help ourselves, but I think probably the biggest pearl wisdom we can pass on for anyone that is considering or starting out, which is to be able to surround yourself in a community that is going to be able to give you the support, the education and the resources necessary to be able to take those first steps. It can be daunting, it can be overwhelming, but you know, being able to really you know look after kind of your own education is a huge factor and that was one of the things that we did that really helped us right. We spent the time on education, mentorship, getting ourselves in the communities and really being able to understand what we’re up to before we jumped into it, because when you start.
Speaker 212:25
You don’t, you know, when you start on a journey, especially when you’re working the nine to five and you’re in the grind and you’re and you have this kind of vision of what real estate could do for you, and so you want to sort of dip your feet in a little bit. But you know, you hear all the things in the news about all the market and maybe it’s not a good idea. So when we started we didn’t talk to anybody about what we were doing, because we kept it just between us for almost a full year, you know, and so we had to talk about it with the people that were in those communities with us, yeah, and that built really strong friendships and really strong relationships and we have just learned a ton from everybody there and that has kind of seen us through a little bit, because I think sometimes when you’re not in the space, you can get a little bit overwhelmed by fear.
Speaker 113:20
Yeah, I mean, obviously the media really sensationalizes things and, at the end of the day, whether you’re an entrepreneur and another type of business or an investor, like it, can be very isolating. So I think it’s nice to know that you’ve got resources and people that you can talk to. I mean, even for myself, like my husband’s not really involved with it so I can’t go to him asking certain questions because he’s not going to really know or he cannot maybe relate to certain things. So it’s nice to know you can go back out to other people you’ve developed those relationships with, just to have the support or get where you want to go faster answer a question Totally, totally. So in that note, we’re just going to take a really brief break for a word from our sponsors and we’ll be right back.
13:56
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15:09
Inspired to Invest is proud to support the Beyond Success program. In today’s complex world, it’s absolutely crucial for our youth to learn how to take charge of their financial future. We believe that every young person deserves access to accurate, practical financial information. Designed to bridge the gap, the Beyond Success program leverages a comprehensive educational bootcamp to equip young minds with essential financial literacy skills. At Beyond Success, it’s not just about teaching financial literacy. It’s also about fostering a foundation for a prosperous and empowered future. Join us Together, we can build a brighter financial future for the next generations. Hey everybody, welcome back to the Inspired to Invest podcast. I have Ray Voza and Joanne Barenton, here with me today from Phoebe Co, and they’re talking about how they started investing in real estate about four years back and they’ve grown their portfolio with their joint venture partners and other resources to over 100 doors. So bringing everything back, I guess. One question that I have is what’s the craziest thing that you’ve ever done as a real estate investor so far? Oh, my goodness, I mean, you know.
Speaker 316:22
I’m not going to make it a start.
Speaker 116:23
There’s been some crazy ones right, there’s some totally crazy ones, but I do remember one time we were, it was our first multifamily and we were up there and there was a little bit of a dispute about some ownership of property.
Speaker 316:30
right, there were some things out front that we had said, hey, we got to clear out of here all that sort of stuff. Next thing, I know, right, a couple of phone calls are made and I’ve got the OPP there and like I’m over the cruiser and like he’s got the handcuffs out and I’m like, hold on a second, we’re actually, we’re actually part of the solution right here. So probably the craziest was like telling Joe that I nearly got arrested when I was working on my property. That was probably one of the craziest.
Speaker 117:03
Yeah, no. And for you, Joe, is there anything that jumps out?
Speaker 217:07
I would say receiving that picture and over you know getting arrested, I was like what is happening? No, we’ve had some pretty crazy stories in terms of you know fires, floods, like you know everything you can think of. We’ve kind of gone through it so yeah.
Speaker 117:27
Yeah, you came out on the other side and you’re still smiling, so I think that’s the thing that’s right. So I know you talked a lot about educating yourself and surrounding yourself with mentorship. What’s some of the best advice you’ve received?
Speaker 317:40
I think some of the best advice that we’ve received is really to be able to go ahead and spend the time to define your goals.
17:45
Everyone has got different objectives out there and it is okay to like beat them as grand or as simple as you want them to be, but without understanding what you’re trying to achieve, and you’re like great, I want to go out and do this, but then it’s like the what is it that you want to get out of it and why is it that you’re doing it?
18:01
If you don’t have those two components really figured out, you’re going to keep on doing this thing but not really getting to where you want to go. So, being able to sit down and truly define what it is you want. If it’s money, do you want X amount coming in? If it is control of your time, if it is control of your finances, if it is running a business, if it is being totally passive, you really have to really search within yourself to be able to say what is it you want, because it’s ultimately architecting your life by design. Right? You get to choose your path by the work that you’re about to put in, so you don’t want to do all this work to find yourself down this other path and be kind of looking over at the other pastor going geez, I thought I’d be over there and here I am, or?
18:40
anything. So I think that’s probably like a really big thing that started off for us, which was finding those goals and then refining them as we go, keep looking at them, keep looking at them and making sure we’re on the right path.
Speaker 218:51
Well, that’s the thing. Yeah, you do. You’re constantly refining your goals and you, through your experiences, you realize, oh, maybe that’s not. Actually it’s not really feeling like that’s for me. Maybe I’m gonna do a little bit of this, but I think one of the main things is, when you’re doing that exercise of trying to define your goals, really be honest with yourself and don’t set goals based on what you think you should want. And I think that’s really hard, because I think in this day and age, a lot of the times we think, especially when you’re going into entrepreneurship, there’s a lot of like go, go, go and acquire and be awesome and get all these doors and all of this stuff. And if you don’t want that, that’s okay. If you just wanna do one property here and get a little portfolio of five doors, like that’s fine too. And sometimes I think it’s very easy to get caught up in that.
Speaker 119:49
So, really being honest with yourself, I think in social media I can feel really competitive, right. I mean people put that in their description, like how many doors they have or what the value of their portfolio is like, and it can feel really intimidating or competitive and things like that, right. But at the end of the day, we all have different seasons in our life and if you’ve got two small kids, like, it may not make sense to acquire maybe what you thought you would, because you’re giving up that time that you wanted to have with your family in the first place, right. So I think it’s all about having that balance and figuring out what works best for your life, and I think that’s exactly where we are right now too right.
Speaker 220:24
So we went all in and we kind of got we just got Full tilt. We went full tilt. I mean, it’s kind of how we do most things.
20:31
But, we went full tilt. We, you know it took this past, you know, year for us to really realize we work harder now than we ever did in the day jobs, you know. And yes, we’ve built a lifestyle where we’re not going into the nine to five and that kind of thing, which is amazing, and we’re able to pick up our kids at the bus, which we love. Yeah.
Speaker 120:55
I can’t.
Speaker 220:56
But it is. You know, you have to take a moment and I think, as you say, seasons, every season, do some reflection and say is this what I want, you know? And if not, what changes am I going to make to do that?
Speaker 121:09
Yeah, to do that Perfect sense. Now, obviously you talked about just you know the amount of work that you’re doing right now. So my question is just in regards to how real estate investing has changed your life but maybe not so much how it is now, but like, how do you see it changing as you move forward and you’ve got property that are stabilizing and you’re kind of, you know, maybe more slowly acquiring and stuff like that Like what do you, how do you see what real estate investing is going to do for you in the long term?
Speaker 321:35
It’s going to continue to like, you know, ultimately it will be able to provide that generational wealth that we want to be able to have, right, that financial freedom for ourselves as well as the people around us, right, so that’s friends, family, community, right, we’re big believers and we all win together.
21:50
It’s not just about, you know, us, you know making it rich. And then, you know, being on the beach sipping the peanuts a lot, that’s nice, but, like, that’s not the big, big, big plan for it. Right there, you know, real estate will continue to be that machine that continues to work and build over time, right, and that’s what it is. It’s designed to be a time-based, you know investment vehicle where, over years and years and years, it just continues to go ahead and provide you great quality returns. So for us, now that we’ve kind of built this great, you know, stabilized portfolio, now it’s about really picking, you know, passion, projects, things that we really want to be able to make impact and difference in doing where we can see real benefits ethically, financially and socially. So I think that’s, you know, that’s probably the best I can give you in terms of where we’re going to keep on going.
Speaker 222:35
Well, it can control our time I have no doubt about that Like control of our time. That’s been the biggest gift it’s given us, I’d say, Is the freedom to work from home, the freedom to be there for our kids, take our kids to all the lessons, be there at the bus, do all those things that you know we weren’t able to do before, and so I just think more of that.
Speaker 322:56
It’s the tiny little intrinsic moments, right. It’s being able to like take your kids and you know, to that after school event and not have to worry about, you know, talking to the boss and getting time off early and then working later on and all that stuff. Sure, you know the boss still says yes most of the time, but you know you still got to put the effort in.
Speaker 223:13
That’s for sure Good one, annie, good one that makes sense.
Speaker 123:18
Now, I guess, in terms of financial freedom, is there anything that you guys determined, maybe early on, that was like your financial freedom number, whether that’s cash flow coming in the value of the portfolio, like kind of to feel like you’ve made it?
Speaker 323:32
Well, thank you, like that’s always nice to hear, right. We feel like we’re still, you know, on the ascent kind of thing. But I think for us Serena right, there were some good things kind of passed on in terms of some financial marks, and we were very green when we started, so it was all new to us. But the idea of being at the accredited level right of an investor so having a certain amount of liquidity, having a certain amount of assets and then having a certain net worth right is what we really kind of strive for. So we’ve been able to hit those marks, which is really really great.
Speaker 124:03
Now for someone that’s new and may not understand. Like what is the value of being accredited, like what do you have to have? Or like what level of income.
Speaker 324:12
So I guess, in the layman’s terms, right, it’s as simple as you can invest in more I don’t want to say complicated projects, but you can make larger investments in projects, right? So if you wanted to be into a development project or that sort of thing, you’re now going to have the financial, you know acumen to be able to say, yes, I understand what I’m investing in and I can participate Sometimes, right, the you know the person who’s putting together the investment package of the developer. They may not let someone who’s not accredited.
Speaker 124:43
So you might know For someone who doesn’t know what that is like what do you have to have in terms of income or assets to be considered accredited?
Speaker 324:51
Oh, now, you’re going to put me on the spot right here. So yeah, you never know who’s listening right. Like that may be a term that they’ve never heard of before. I think the net worth is like 2.5 is the net worth is where it sits at, and then in terms of liquidity, I believe that it is. I think it’s 300 is liquidity on there, and then I believe your annual has to be in and around 300 as well. I’d have to go back and double check on those, right?
Speaker 125:13
Yeah, I was just curious because, like I said, whenever someone uses an acronym or a term that I think someone may understand. If they’re listening for the first time, then it’s always helpful just to break it down for them. Yes, now, I guess, in terms of inspiration. Obviously the name of the podcast is inspired to invest. So are there any particular quotes that really resonate with you? Go ahead.
Speaker 225:32
An the one that I’ve always loved, which is not necessarily connected to real estate, but it’s reach for the moon and the worst you can do is fall among the stars.
Speaker 125:40
I love that one.
Speaker 225:43
I love it because it does create that impetus and that drive to just you know it, go for it. Just go for it. You know it’s too short to sit around and worry and wonder and like, oh, what if I did this or you know could? How could real estate help me? Oh, but I’m a little nervous. Just go for it. Go for it with people that you trust. Try it out, and the worst you’ll have is an experience, you know, and you’ll learn from it and you’ll grow from it. And you know I think real estate is an incredible, credible business and incredible industry that can help so many people in so many different ways passively, actively, all sorts of things. So I guess that would be my advice is just go for it.
Speaker 326:31
I would say mine is live life by design and not by necessity. And that took me a long time to kind of wrap my head around because I was like, well, I always need to do these things in order to be able to kind of live right, to be able to make my weeks, make my months. And it’s really the idea of you know, you have the opportunity to get up and design your life. And I know that might sound like you know pedestrian kind of advice where it’s like oh, so easy because they’ve made it kind of thing and they can do whatever they want. That’s not the case. We can all get up and choose how our days can be, choose habits, choose productivity, choose to live an inspired life and hopefully inspire those around us. So we love your podcast name. Part of our goal is always to be able to inspire those around us to live their best lives. So try and do it by design the things that you want to get the best out of life right. And yeah, there it is.
Speaker 127:19
Great Now for anyone that wants to get in touch with you to learn more about your opportunities. What’s the best way for them to connect?
Speaker 327:24
Awesome. Well, we can be reached in some simple ways. We’re on social media, so you can find us on Instagram, you can find us on Facebook and you can also find us on LinkedIn. So it’s bvcoca. That’s who we are. You can also go onto our website, which is wwwbbcoca, so pretty easy to be able to locate us.
Speaker 127:42
We’re right out there. Yeah, and we’ll obviously include all your details in the show notes below. Is there anything in particular that you want to leave with anyone that could be watching or listening right now?
Speaker 227:52
I think, just if you’re curious about real estate, if it’s something you’ve been toying with or thinking about exploring, I would say connect with somebody that you know who’s in the space, connect with somebody that you trust and pick their brain. Everybody who’s in the real estate space loves talking about real estate.
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So, it can never hurt to, as we said earlier, just educate yourself, get yourself informed and, when you’re ready, take a step with somebody that you trust. And the opportunities are there. There are so many opportunities and we always have opportunities. I know you always connect people. You always have your own opportunities, so there’s tons of people out here who want to help and, yeah, just reach out.
Speaker 328:39
Yeah, so I would echo Joe’s thoughts there. We can help you in your real estate journey. Please reach out. We would love to have that conversation, but at the same time, I want to say thank you for Serena for hosting us, but also for all of this amazing podcast. Your platform is blown up and my number one piece of advice to lead people with which is continue to listen and follow, because you’re bringing unbelievable content and experts, ready and available for people to be able to absorb and really take action on. So thanks for what you’re doing. It’s awesome, thank you Awesome.
Speaker 129:08
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