Innovative Senior Care Solutions
In today’s world, the need for innovative solutions in senior care is more critical than ever. With an aging population and a growing demand for supportive living environments, the conversation around senior living is shifting away from traditional institutional models to appealing, boutique-style residences.
Our latest episode of “Inspired To Invest” features Brandon Schwab of Shepherd Premier Senior Living, who emphasizes the urgent need for change in this sector and how his company aims to fill that gap. This blog post delves deep into the main topics discussed in the podcast, painting a picture of the evolving landscape of senior care.
Brandon Schwab shares his journey into senior living, a path that started unexpectedly from a negative experience with a conventional facility. After witnessing the challenges faced in large care institutions, Schwab stumbled upon a boutique home that cared for fewer residents, providing the intimate, personalized care that is often lacking in larger facilities. This eye-opening experience led him to create Shepherd Premier Senior Living with the goal of offering an alternative that focuses on treating residents like family, rather than just clients.
One of the core concepts driving Shepherd Premier’s business model is its boutique approach, where the focus is on creating homes that retain a familial atmosphere rather than sterile institutions. Schwab articulates that a critical aspect of their operations is keeping resident numbers manageable, facilitating better care and connection among staff and residents. By limiting the resident count to around 10-20 individuals, they can ensure that each person receives personalized attention, creating a nurturing environment that is beneficial to both caregivers and the elderly.
The financial aspects of running residential care homes drawn attention during the discussion, with Schwab highlighting how the profitability of boutique models can exceed traditional operations. By capitalizing on rising demands and charging per resident, Shepherd Premier aims to fulfill the needs of both their business and the population they serve. While a monthly cost in traditional facilities can vary dramatically, Schwab demonstrates how a focused model can deliver both quality care and financial viability.
Navigating regulatory hurdles is a significant aspect any entrepreneur in the senior living sector must consider. Schwab shares some of his experiences in securing permits necessary to operate these homes, offering insight into the timeframes and processes involved. The discussion elaborates on what new entrants should anticipate, stressing the importance of understanding local regulations, acquiring the right permits, and ensuring compliance with health regulations.
As the conversation unfolds, the impact of COVID-19 on the healthcare industry, particularly in senior living, was hard to ignore. Schwab explains how Shepherd Premier’s commitment to maintaining a family-oriented culture within its homes proved invaluable during challenging times and how their dedicated team of caregivers stepped up in a time when many were unwilling to return to work. The spirit of community and care for the elderly resonates in his reflections regarding overcoming adversity in the sector.
Looking toward the future, Schwab expresses optimism about the potential for scaling his business. Through strategic partnerships and grassroots marketing efforts to fill their residences, he’s witnessed firsthand how focusing on relationships can yield significant rewards. He believes there’s vast potential to expand their brand into new markets while maintaining their core principles.
Brandon’s candid insights about establishing this business remind listeners that failure is just a stepping stone to success. He emphasizes the importance of taking calculated risks and learning from mistakes. His belief that personal and professional growth emerges through trial and error underscores the episode’s unifying message: take action, adapt, and be resourceful.
For anyone interested in the senior living sector, this episode serves as an invigorating start to reimagining how we support our aging population. With the rising demand for diverse living options, now is an exciting time for innovation within the field, and Schwab’s experiences are a valuable resource for aspiring entrepreneurs seeking to make their mark.
To connect with Brandon, go to https://shepherdpremierseniorliving.com/
Thank you to The GeoFocus Group for bringing us this month’s episode. To learn more about their construction management support services for real estate development, including missing middle housing, go to https://thegeofocusgroup.com.
“Inspired to Invest” is proud to support the Beyond Success Program, a not-for-profit financial literacy program for students, launched by More To Give & MAK Investments. Find out more at @more2give.ca.
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Real Estate Investing Podcast Transcript
Serena HolmesHost00:02
Hey everybody, welcome to Inspire to Invest. I have Brandon Schwab here with me today. From Bull Valley, illinois. He focuses on boutique style senior living communities and his shepherd, his company I should say Shepherd Premier Senior Living provides an alternative to traditional institutional style senior care by offering small, intimate residential homes that feel like family environments. As they continue to expand, their goal is to grow their footprint while keeping the core of their model the boutique resident first style experience at the heart of every project. So I think that’s pretty amazing and one thing I learned here in Canada. I don’t know if that’s like this in the States, but senior living communities are actually one of the only things that are not rent controls, which I found really, really crazy, since they are such a vulnerable part of the population. So I love what you’re doing. It sounds like it’s something that’s definitely needed.
Brandon SchwabGuest00:51
Yes, it is. I just saw an article last week that was able to say that in our country there is a need of 775,000 new units by 2030 just to keep up. That’s a huge problem that if we don’t tackle today by 2030, we are going to be in a giant. It’s going to be a giant issue for our whole entire country because of the elders that are coming. They are going to need help.
Serena HolmesHost01:23
Seven out of 10 folks are we just lost your sound there, Brandon.
Brandon SchwabGuest01:34
What.
Serena HolmesHost01:35
Oh, we just lost your sound there for a little bit. All of what we just said was just gone.
Brandon SchwabGuest01:40
It was good, and then it just stopped.
Serena HolmesHost01:41
So maybe we’ll just start from the top and we’ll just you can explain that from the beginning, or we’ll just start with the first question. I can edit it in.
Brandon SchwabGuest01:48
Do you want me to dial in from my cell?
Serena HolmesHost01:56
Well, let’s see how it goes. Like it was fine. I just don’t know why it cut out. It was just like as you were speaking, the sound disappeared.
Brandon SchwabGuest02:04
So if, if I dial in, I can put in headsets.
Serena HolmesHost02:11
Yeah, I’m just wondering from an editing perspective, because I usually go with a landscape format so I don’t know if that’ll mess it up calling in from a cell phone.
Brandon SchwabGuest02:21
Okay.
Serena HolmesHost02:21
Okay, so we’ll try it again we don’t have to go through the whole intro or anything, but may I just start with the first question and I can just edit from there. Sure, so thanks for being with us today. I just want to know how did you get started in this field, because it is really unique compared to some of the other real estate investors that I’ve spoken with.
Brandon SchwabGuest02:41
Well, I got into this field first I did not quite think that I would ever end up in it. We went through it on our own. Our own family member went to a traditional facility with 200 people and we had a terrible experience. That experience led me to believe that I never wanted to be in that whole industry because it just offered terrible care. About five years later I was able to get exposed to a home that cared for five people and I said this is different, right? So I only got interested in doing what we’re doing because I was able to see the part that is ugly first, and then I got exposed to how it was done, where they focus on the folks that are in there first and it’s distinctly different. And that’s the cost look like.
Serena HolmesHost03:37
I understand like usually they’re just trying to get the numbers in right and it is actually crazy when you look at the. The cost, like I would say, where I am, a cheap senior living home is about $2,500 a month and it’s for just a room, like it feels like it probably even smaller than a dorm room, but it can go upwards of $10,000 a month. So what does that look like? When you compare that with your model and you know, would that jack the price up significantly because it’s only five people or 10 people. So what do those models look like for you?
Brandon SchwabGuest04:08
So what I found was five people is not enough. So what we found is our niche is going to be 10 to Just lost your sound again.
Serena HolmesHost04:23
Oh no, All right.
Brandon SchwabGuest04:26
There no All right.
Serena HolmesHost04:26
There it’s back again. I just don’t know what’s causing it to disappear, because it’s not muted or anything. So I just don’t know.
Brandon SchwabGuest04:43
I don’t know. I don’t know either. That’s uh, so maybe I bring this thing closer. Let me change the audio.
Serena HolmesHost04:58
So how’s this?
Brandon SchwabGuest04:58
yeah, is this too loud?
Serena HolmesHost05:01
no, it’s okay okay that’s okay, don’t feel bad. I’ve had weird things happen. I guess my husband didn’t realize I was recording once he started drilling outside my window. I got just random different things happen. So it’s all good. All right, so we’ll go from the top, just in terms of you can kind of pick up from where the question was, just explaining your model. Okay.
Brandon SchwabGuest05:28
Yeah, we actually got into the industry almost on accident. Actually, our family member had to go to a traditional facility and he had terrible care there, so all of us were able to use that experience as what we didn’t want to have done. That was a home with over 200 plus people. Care was terrible, the overall odor was terrible, it was terrible. And then, five years later, I got exposed to a home that cared for five to 10 people and I found quite the opposite, and once I knew that that was there, so I was interested and when I came back home, I introduced a model that had 10 to 20 people per home and that was our niche, where it was large enough to earn what we needed to earn to do the overhead, but it also wasn’t that big that we lost the home field.
Serena HolmesHost06:31
Yeah, no, I love that. Now, did you have a background in real estate prior to?
Brandon SchwabGuest06:35
this experience. I did.
Serena HolmesHost06:36
Okay, so can you take us back to that beginning, like where your career started in real estate and real estate investing, and I mean it’s such an interesting segue, so I just want to dig a little bit deeper into that.
Brandon SchwabGuest06:47
Yeah, I actually got into investing in real estate. I began wholesaling in 2009, 2010.
Serena HolmesHost06:56
Yeah.
Brandon SchwabGuest06:57
I was doing that for the first two years and I thought I was crushing it. But then I realized I was working 50, 80 hours per week and I had no income coming in. So at the first two years I kind of pivoted to less wholesaling. After the first two years I kind of pivoted to less wholesaling and then I began being able to put together a portfolio of our own home because I wanted passive income. So I had learned quickly that you could have the active income but if you don’t have passive income you don’t have time to go do what you would want to do. So I figured out quickly that I needed passive income and over the next two years we had built a portfolio of 23 homes tenants in all of them and that’s how I was able to get into it.
Serena HolmesHost07:44
Yeah, and would those all be in the area where you live? Because I know in the States maybe more so even than Canada like people tend to do things more all over States maybe more so even than Canada, like people tend to do things more all over. So I’m just curious to see like where that portfolio is and like what the price point even is on buying a single family home.
Brandon SchwabGuest08:00
Yeah, so all those homes were within an hour of our house. We’re buying houses from 150 to 250,000. We had tenants and they’re paying 15001,500 to $1,800 per month, maybe highest at $2,000. On the flip side, what we did here is we’re buying houses that are $250,000 to $500,000, putting a few hundred thousand dollars into them, but we had each room paying $5,000 to $8,000 each month. So when you have 10 people paying $5,000 per month and you have income of over 50,000,.
08:33
this concept was very more. It generated more income than what I was doing prior and I found the first home that I was exposed to in 2014 down in Florida. That one home with five people in it outperformed all 23 of our homes two times each month and I said I need to get into that business, right yeah?
Serena HolmesHost08:56
I think a lot more people might want to get into that business after hearing about this. Now, in terms of regulations and things like that, can you talk about that process? Because it’s not like you can necessarily just like open this up, right, I’m sure that there’s going to be some things when you look at the governments and health and things like that. So can you shed light on how you learned the ropes in that area?
Brandon SchwabGuest09:17
Yeah, so I could talk about all that.
09:21
In our area what you have to do is you typically have to purchase a home, you have to go and get a conditional use permit, and then you would actually take that permit and then go through, and then you would actually take that permit and then go through and then you would open up the home and then you would fill it.
09:36
So every part of the country kind of does it a little bit different, so don’t quite quote me on that. But it took us about three months to get the upfront permit. It took about six months to do what we had to do to the homes, because all of us were purchasing homes that were five,000 to 10,000 feet, because our niche is we wanted to have 10 to about 20 people per home in it, not five. So we were trying to find a property that was a little different and then we would operate it afterwards and it would take me about six months to fill it. So it takes you a year to two years to really get things humming and that’s really what we kind of found is the typical timeframe.
Serena HolmesHost10:22
Now, in terms of how you’re using the equity to get things started are you raising money from private investors, or what’s your structure like in terms of getting things off the ground?
Brandon SchwabGuest10:31
Yeah, so we created a fund to actually do that. So we are bringing in capital from investors to actually help us open up homes. When we got into the industry in 2014, we did what we could, based on what I had access to, and then we kind of capped out, and that was really good because we proved out our niche. So all of us proved out what we were trying to get done. And then we kind of capped out right, and that was really good because we proved out our niche, so all of us proved out what we were trying to get done.
10:57
And then we had realized that we needed to create a fund to bring in investors to help us keep on going right, which is good. I feel we’re on version 10.0, because over the first 10 years we failed more than a few times. Right, but that’s part of what we had to go through. And now today we really found a niche in the industry, that we feel that we’ve got an opportunity to really change the industry and we are opening up to investors to be part of what we were able to do yeah so it was like, not very often do you have an opportunity to invest in this asset class that’s going to have a home and also, um, health care.
11:45
When you put those two together, and if you look at the aging of our country, I was able to, like, read an article just this past week. I was able to say that, uh, our country is in need of 775 000 new units by 2030, just to keep up. Yeah, so there is a crisis coming and we’re trying to get in front of that. So, as often as we can, and what we’re finding is we found a niche of people that are currently doing it today, that are trying to exit because they’re older, they’re overweight or they have type two like things happen in their own lives.
12:21
And we’re basically doing a roll up of these properties quietly, and we’re building a portfolio in our area first, but then we’re going to expand out, right. So during COVID, we went too big, too fast, too far out. So we are going to be. All of our homes today are within two hours and we are going to go out to eight hours, right. So any one of our homes, we are able to touch it within eight hours, or a one to two hour flight.
Serena HolmesHost12:52
Now do you think that this is a model that you might consider franchising, just with all the lessons that you’ve had? And then you know, you don’t necessarily have to be as involved in overseeing things, because you can kind of set up a business of other business owners.
Brandon SchwabGuest13:07
We have definitely considered that and we are going to do that in the future. I don’t think we’re going to actually do franchising. We’re going to do more of a licensing model with our ends folks that are in healthcare, and we are going to make a very affordable way for them to get in. But I don’t want to do it before we have enough of a footprint to kind of prove out what we’re doing. I feel like we’re still have an unfinished pie today, that we aren’t quite there yet. Once we get to 30 homes, it’s kind of the check point that I would begin looking at it as now we can have those as corporate owned homes who really kind of get some things proven out, and then afterwards, probably when we get to maybe 300 homes, we would probably consider some, probably in three to five years.
Serena HolmesHost13:57
Now, before you’re talking about some of the challenges that you have experienced, can you share some of those obstacles that you faced and you know some of the lessons that came out of those specific challenges?
Brandon SchwabGuest14:09
Well, I can tell you I failed a lot. A lot of folks wait for things to be perfect and then they never take action. The problem with that thesis is you never do what needs to be done for you to learn, and things are never going to be perfect for you to actually go right. And I kind of feel like this industry is kind of that too right. There’s not a lot of these in the country. There’s thousands of them, but, like in our area, there wasn’t any.
14:38
So I failed a lot, and one of the things of many. I mean, when we first opened, we had three people out of 10 and we were just barely covering our costs and I needed to fill openings right. So I spent $50,000 on advertising, I put 12 front page ads and I spent $38,000 on Facebook pay-per-click and then I filled the house. So I thought I did a really good job. When I did an audit afterwards, I realized that none of them came from me, not even one. What I realized is the third person that came into our home her daughter cut hair and her daughter does this all day long, and we literally filled six out of those seven beds from her and I paid her nothing. So I literally spent $50,000 and got nothing in return.
15:38
Yeah, yeah, right.
Serena HolmesHost15:40
So, but that’s a good way to consider the model, though that, as you start to duplicate into all those new areas, like just hit up the barbershops.
Brandon SchwabGuest15:51
What we found is we don’t do typical ads anymore. We partner up with five different people and we fill all of our houses Smart. Yeah, partnerships are critical, so we focus on those partnerships. We take folks out to eat, partner with them. We are able to help them and then, in return, they are able to help us as well.
Serena HolmesHost16:12
That’s smart. Now, on that note, we’re just going to take a really brief break for a word from our sponsors, and we’ll be right back.
Brandon SchwabGuest16:18
All right, great, thank you.
Serena HolmesHost16:19
Hey everybody, Welcome back to Inspired to Invest. I’ve got Brennan Schwab with me today from Bull Valley, Illinois, and he’s the founder of Shepherd Premier Senior Living and he’s talking about how he’s kind of revolutionizing the industry when it comes to senior care. And before the break, we’re talking about challenges and successes and I really want to know what’s one of the craziest things that you’ve experienced since you started rolling out this business?
Brandon SchwabGuest16:45
craziest things. Well, there has been plenty. During COVID we had dealt with lack of caregivers.
16:53
People had COVID and we went through the trenches during COVID getting people to come in, and so one of the things we realized is in our homes we create a very family-first culture in our homes and we had caregivers that are incredible, that have huge hearts. That really came through for us in a moment where people were paid not to come into work and when you’re caring for seniors there’s not much of an option. It’s incredible how, when the caregivers are given the proper option where they don’t have to care for 20 to 30 people, which is typical in this industry the family culture in the heart that happens when they came together and filled gaps where, when people called off, I mean there were signs we had overtime at $20,000 per month. But the point being is we got through COVID and the team of investors, the family culture we had in the homes, got us through a really tough time that, like many companies that just opened, didn’t get through COVID. So we’ve gone through a lot of adversity during COVID, through a lot of adversity during COVID.
18:12
Another example is we were on a contract to buy seven homes at 12.5 million and we ran it through the SBA and we didn’t get the deal right and when I got our attorney bill of $125,000, I panicked right. And there is a bunch of these opportunities that I learned and even today I would go through that over again because what it taught me is priceless. And now today we are building our company’s future off what I had learned on. Folks would think of them as an error. Yes, it’s an $85,000 error because I I got them down from 125,000 down to 85,000. But when you write a check for 85,000, you learn what that’s trying to teach you. And now today we are using that every day and I’m so thankful for those opportunities that if people would just jump in and fail faster, I feel like they would like get through what you need to get through, to like prove that you are going to get all of the upsides as well.
Serena HolmesHost19:19
I think sometimes people are too afraid to fail and yeah, and and also, I think sometimes I’ve seen that people just aren’t resourceful enough and within my community, for example, like this year’s, had a lot of challenges and there’s been a lot of companies going down and stuff like that, and I think people were too reliant on the immediate community.
19:37
So, you know, when some of these companies went down and some of the money dried up like well, there’s a lot of other places you can raise money, like there’s a lot of private equity out there, you just have to think outside of this little box and this little community that we’ve been in for the last few years to try to bring in new opportunities and stuff like that. So I think it’s not only you know the person that works the hardest there, is most persistent, but the person that’s just most resourceful. So, um, I think that’s a big lesson.
Brandon SchwabGuest20:06
Yeah, for sure, and so so I think when folks own companies, I think they think they are doing everything on their own, but when they tell other people what’s actually going on, they find that there are folks that are interested and if they are going to have the opportunity to help, they would love to help. I mean, we found a lot of doctors. Folks in health care know the challenges that we are facing Right, but they connect with it and they really have a heart for it as well. So, if you just begin talking about what’s going on and being a little bit open and authentic because there will be people that will want to help you, but they’ll only help you if they know that you need help yeah, some folks are a little too prideful that, as you’re able to say, they aren’t creative, they aren’t willing to to go out there and put in the work.
21:02
I mean, one of the top reasons that any company fails is they don’t have enough. Reasons that any company fails is they don’t have enough capital to to get them going right. And um, there are investors out there that have capital. I mean, if you look at how much is sitting in the iras and the 401ks that are earning less than three percent. There’s trillions of dollars, trillions. Yeah, just sit in there getting chewed up by inflation, which, so I don’t know about you, the inflation is, but down here I mean inflation is eight to 10%.
21:33
And that’s just what they tell you.
Serena HolmesHost21:35
Yeah, I mean, there was someone that I interviewed earlier this week and he also had a connection to the medical community because he was in, he installed different pacemakers and things like that for doctors, and so he had this great community. So when he went into real estate investing, he was able to get a lot of investment dollars from the doctors. So I’m sure, likewise with you like not only do you have these connections, but they can just see that you’re trying to make the world a better place for these seniors that are in these, you know, going from institutional living into something that’s far better. So I think that that’s a great way to lean on that as well. Now, in terms of things, advice, what would you say is some of the best advice?
Brandon SchwabGuest22:15
you’ve been given throughout this journey. I love the advice to fail faster, take action, get in there like just go, do it right. It feels easy when a person is going to tell you that, but like Right, it feels easy when a person is going to tell you that, but, like so many people overthink everything and they never take action and a lot of people never achieve their what they’re trying to do so in life because they’re afraid of what other people are able to think, and I think it’s foolish. I really would encourage people to take action faster because I think what’s going on is so so. We need people to to take action today, like there are issues that need to be fixed. Find a issue that needs to be fixed that you have a heart for and jump in and take action and fail faster.
Serena HolmesHost23:07
Yeah, no, I love that. Now I know you talked a little bit about your growth plan, but can you elaborate a little bit more on, like, what’s next for you and how you see the company building out? Like I’m curious to see how involved you are in the day to day and, like you know, if you go from, say, 10 locations to 20 or 100, like, how do you see that model coming together so you’re not going back to working like 100 hours a week?
Brandon SchwabGuest23:32
Yes, 100%. So I don’t have a healthcare history, which is great because I cannot help in the houses every day. So I have the opportunity where I work on the company, compared to in it every day, which is critical. I’m in the office. Here I focus on purchasing properties. We developed a niche through a ton of error and failure, right where now we know how to roll up properties way faster than I ever did before, properties way faster than I ever did before.
24:10
I was telling you before, when we were purchasing homes and converting, it would take me up to two years to get them, like earning money. Now, that’s cool if you would like to do, say, checks for two years. But what I found is I discovered a niche industry where I can buy these things and they cashflow from day one. Niche industry where I can buy these things and they cashflow from day one and people are happy for us to purchase them. And what I realized is I should have done that the first 10 years. But I’m at a point now where we are excited about the future because we can help people exit a company that they opened 20 to 25 years ago. But we’re buying businesses that are in the Flintstone era right Non-tech, low-tech. They don’t use AI, they don’t use tech. We love tech and we also love AI, and when we can take a business that doesn’t have those things and put it in, we can make it more efficient, but we can also help people exit.
25:08
Now the beautiful part is we’re really good at two offers. One offer cash. The other offer is owner financing. That the highest interest I’ve ever paid is one and a half percent where the owner carries. So what we do is we can take the pool of capital that we have and give two offers and what we find is the owners that we are purchasing from take it’s about 50-50, right, 50.
25:33
Take the offer for cash. That’s not a great offer, but we close quickly or the owner finance and they get the full asking price and what we figure out is we can control more properties faster, that cashflow from day one. And we also discovered an end financing option that gives 35 year perm financing at 85% LTV. So we have our model in place that we are purchasing upfront. I got financing pays back the upfront, that we do it over and over. So we are poised to grow and expand. By the time that this publishes, I mean, we’ll probably have 30, 40 houses right. So we are growing. We currently have 21 homes under contract today and that’s going to 2x our whole portfolio in 45 days.
Serena HolmesHost26:23
Yeah, Now are you able to share what what your portfolio cash values at this point in terms of cash flow coming in per month and then what the overall portfolio value would be Just to give people some context.
Brandon SchwabGuest26:38
So right now, today, we have nine homes, 141 total beds, all right, we generate four hundred and twenty three thousand dollars per month.
Serena HolmesHost26:49
And that’s net revenue.
Brandon SchwabGuest26:52
Yeah, that is total income. We operate at about a 20% to a 25% profit margin today, that’s with those homes. When we acquire 21 more homes, our profit goes from 20, 25% to 35%. So we’re gaining efficiencies as we are able to go up in home count because our overhead is put over 30 homes compared to like nine homes. Right, so we’re getting more efficient as we go.
27:22
Right, the current value of our current homes we were able to raise $23 million Value is $38 million. So we’ve got a good chunk of equity. But we need more homes to take out to HUD. Right, so we had realized that there’s more of a rolling up. That needs to happen, because HUD likes to do check sizes for 200 total beds up to 400 beds, not like 100 beds. They want that bigger target because they enjoy doing bigger checks. Our country also needs us to go faster. So we’re building a portfolio that when we have 30 home it will be valued at $94 million, which is exciting because we’re getting to a point where takeoff financing will love us and there’ll be just throwing money at us. So our investors, that that are on board with what we’re doing going forward, will be part of that and they will benefit from us just doing it over and over and over. I mean it’s cool to do what we’re doing yeah, yeah, it’s amazing, right?
Serena HolmesHost28:34
I mean, I think there’s going to be a lot of people that tune into this episode and are going to rip off your idea.
Brandon SchwabGuest28:41
They’re going to infuse it into different communities, but it’s, it’s all good, I think think here and that is fine, right, Because if you look at the town of elders that are going to need help, so I hope everyone’s able to do it right yeah.
28:58
I want to hop on here and answer every question. You have to add as much value as we can, because even if all of us do it, it’s still not going to be, so we can’t keep up. Yeah, so we are not afraid of anyone doing what we’re doing, because if they choose to, that’s great.
Serena HolmesHost29:16
Yeah.
Brandon SchwabGuest29:17
I’m hoping they do, or investors that don’t have time to go, do it. Call me, because we would love to have you be part of what we’re doing. Yeah, you are actively part of it, because without those funds I can’t keep expanding and, as we have plenty of capital, we can keep growing, growing, growing and literally change the whole future by doing that. That’s exciting.
Serena HolmesHost29:39
Yeah, no, that’s really exciting. Now, obviously, the name of this podcast is Inspired to Invest, so I always like to ask guests if they have a particular quote that motivates or inspires them invest. So.
Brandon SchwabGuest29:49
I always like to ask guests if they have a particular quote that motivates or inspires them.
29:52
Is. Is there a particular quote? I love a hockey quote which you’ll probably appreciate uh, by Wayne, and he is able to say you will miss 100% of the shots that you don’t take. So I love that quote because, like it drives you to take action. Right, if you talk on something or think of something and don’t do it, you are guaranteed you are never going to hit the goal ever, because up here is keeping you from doing that. So taking those shots, even if you fail, will teach you so you can do things different afterwards and don’t be afraid to take those shots.
Serena HolmesHost30:38
Yeah, yeah, absolutely Now. For anyone that wants to get in touch to learn more about these opportunities, what’s the best way for them to reach you?
Brandon SchwabGuest30:45
Probably. Just have them call me. We have a team here that is able to answer that, probably 847-512-3. It’s 815-512-3.
Serena HolmesHost31:03
990. I think it’s in your name there. Yeah, yeah, awesome. So we’ll make sure we include that in the show notes below, along with any other relevant details pertaining to your business, of course. Thank you for being with us today. For anyone that is watching or listening, make sure that you’ve liked, comment and subscribe below, and that you’re following along on social at inspired to invest podcast, and remember, above all, when you invest in yourself, the sky’s the limit. Thanks again.